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I make 8x12 prints often.

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I was always frustrated by the jump in paper sizes from 8x10 to 13x19. I like my work presented in a portfolio box format and the 9x13 print dry mounted to a 12x16 is perfect for my printing. I have been using this size for almost two years evolving from 11x14 size paper which is also rare. I use the Red River Palo Duro Softgloss Rag paper for all my printing which is black and white.

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Dec 9, 2022Liked by RWB

Hopefully, you’ll test the RR Palo Duro Baryta which you’ll find is warmer, more textured surface, fewer OBA’s, etc. The Big Bend produces a bit more saturated appearing prints and surprising is a bit more linear than than the PDB. Nonetheless, I find PDB a more interesting paper.

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Regarding this strange papier size it looks like almost half of A3+ size papier (13"*19"). I have never seen such papier before.

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Why is 11 x 14 paper no longer available... I called several paper companies and they said, 'well, there's 11 x 17!'

Seems like a waste of paper..etc

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9x13 is for the native format with a 1 inch border for an 8x12 photo.

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Thank you!

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Thanks for this report - I'd been waiting for it. Recently I have been using Red River's 88 lb. Baryta Polar Matte in card configuration but have also used it for framed prints. I don't know how to translate pounds into GSM, so can't help there. If you do, I'd like to know the GSM value. At any rate, it's a a thicker baryta matte paper, perhaps a bit smoother than some others. Red River, incidentally, does sell many of its papers in the 11 x 14 size if others are interested. As to the 13 x 19 issue the only thing I can muster in its history is to say that early "large" format printers' maximum paper size was 13 x 19 and some of the printer manufacturers sold papers in that size to go with their printers. Then the 11 x 17 printers came out. I wonder if those were the go-between from the big floor-standing printers of 24 inch width and larger. Others, I'm sure, will explain (and know) much more.

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